Posted in P200, P200 Family

Character Pencils – Disney & Popeye

Back in December 2018, another Pentel collector I follow posted on his Instagram a picture of some P200 pencils that I had never seen.

Blog - Character Pencils - P200 Walt Disney Pencils (Japan) - Crz.riley (Instagram) 01Photo by @crz-riley

These pencils were of Disney characters Mickey Mouse (2 versions), Goofy, Donald Duck and Minnie Mouse.  In talking about these pencils and trying to place them in the timeline, we looked at a couple of things about these.  First, they did not have any size molded into the bottom of the pencils, which seems to rule out Generation 2 or Generation 3.  Next, they have the 2mm guide pipe on the tip, which led me to believe these were a Generation 1 pencils, but in the cutout, they did not say P205 JAPAN #, so we decided that these were Generation 1b pencils, which probably came out in 1972 or so.

After thinking about this a little while though, I came to the conclusion that since these originated in Japan, they were P325, not P205 pencils.

In discussing these pencils with @crz.riley, he mentioned that he had also acquired a Popeye version of one of these, and he sent me pictures of it.

Photos by @crz.riley

One thing bothered me about the pictures he sent me here is that the label in the second picture, I had always associated with later pencils.


In April, 2019, I finally received my own character pencil.

Blog - Character Pencils - z0924 - P325-WDG-MIN - Short Tip - 2069

It is a Disney Minnie Mouse pencil.  It seemed to have the same all of the same characteristics as @crz.riley’s pencils, except mine had the size molded into the bottom, so I decided that it probably fell into Generation 2.

Two months later, I received a Popeye pencil, and here is where the first of things started to change.

Blog - Character Pencils - z0954 - P325-KFP - PPL - Short-Tip - 1920

Around this time, I started to look at the numbers in the Mold Mark and see what range they fall into.  I contacted @crz.riley to find out what the marks were on the pencils he had. As I posted in the Mold Marks blog, all Generation 1 pencils fall between 1 and 8, without exception.  I also found that all of the Generation 1 pencils used a Beveled Brass Inner Body, whereas both of my pencils use a later Flat Brass Cap Inner Body, and it looks like @crz.riley’s pencils do as well.

When I checked the Mold Marks on my pencils, they were 11 (Minnie Mouse) and 25 (Popeye pleading to Olive Oyl).  @crz.riley’s pencils all fell between 19 and 28, and when I checked in my database (and listed in the Mold Marks blog), these numbers all fell in the range for Generation 4.

The last piece of information that reconfirmed my reassessment of what generation these pencils were came from another blogger who posted these.

Blog - Character Pencils - P325 - Popeye Pencils 01Photo by @Cuirassier_

These pencils had four different images – Popeye and Olive Oyl, Popeye pleading to Olive Oyl (my version), Popeye fighting Bluto and Popeye with a sea bag.  It also shows that there were 6 different color inner bodies that were used: red, pink, orange, yellow, green and blue.

@Cuirassier_ wrote on his blog (translated by Google), “It was written on the bottom of the case as a manufactured product in 1980, so it seems to have appeared briefly before and after 1980.”  This definitely pushes these pencils into Generation 4, which would make my Disney Minnie Mouse pencil a Generation 3.  It looks like they decided to use the shorter 2mm tips on these limited run pencils.  Of course, this fit nicely with the larger triangular label, as I had generally associated it with Generation 4 pencils.

Another photo he posted also clarified the model number of these pencils.

Blog - Character Pencils - P325 - Popeye Pencils 02Photo by @Cuirassier_

It looks like these pencils were model number P565 or P565ST2 for the Popeye versions.


So coming down to this, until I learn otherwise, I am calling these pencils (at least for my collection):
P565 – Walt Disney are Generations 3 & 4
P565 – Popeye are Generation 4

 


I would like to say Thanks to the following bloggers, as I could not have written this blog without their contributions.  Please go check them out:

@crz.riley on Instagram – a fellow collector of Pentel P200 and other Pentel pencils.

@Cuirassier_ on Twitter and his own blog – a Korean collector of mechanical pencils over a wide range of brands.

Posted in P200, P200 Family

And it Keeps Growing and Growing…

Well, as of last week, I had to expand my collection into case #6.  Up until my latest purchases of new pencils that came out around the world in June 2019 (11 of them), I could fit my primary collection in 5 cases.  The new pencils would have fit in by count (5 cases will hold 240), but I had no way to keep everything grouped together for display, so the new case.

There are currently 232 pencils in the six display cases, along with the 15 custom pencils in the stands below, plus in the Pentel Salesman Sample Case (above the Knight’s head), there are 13 pencils that have alternate labels or something that makes them just slightly different in markings from the ones in the display cases.

Unintentionally, when I was changing the layout of the pencils in these cases, it wound up that Cases 1 & 2 (bottom and middle right) contain only P205 pencils in their various generations and limited colors.  Case 3 (top right) contains all of the P203, P207 & P209 pencils, with their size specific limited colors.  Case 4 (top left) contains all of the non-P200 pencils (P30xS, P32x, P533, PF33x, PS315, PS523 & P21x).  Cases 5 & 6 contain sets that span sizes in P203, P25, P207 & P209.  Except for the first 8 (Japan) in case 5, these all came from Brazil.

Again, something I didn’t really want to do, but had to, to keep it organized was to split the P200 for Boys & Girls pencils into 2 cases, but I moved the Brazil ones to Case 5 and left the Japanese ones in Case 2.  It just so happened that they lined up on the middle shelf on the bottom row of each case.

Since I started this blog, back in 2017, my display has grown from 3 cases in March 2017, to 4 cases in June 2017 and then to 5 cases in September 2018.  Unless Pentel does something super extravagant next year for the 50th anniversary of the P205, I should have room to grow for another year or two (I hope).

Over the next few weeks, I will showcase the new pencils for 2019.

Posted in P200, P200 Family

Custom Pentel P205 Pencils

Over the years, I had picked up some custom pencils, but for the longest time I resisted adding them to my database about my Collection.  I did have some of them on display, but had not decided what to do.

Finally, with the growing size of the collection of custom pencils, I decided to go ahead and catalog these.

For this writeup, I am going to go over these by where I got these from.

Wood Turned Pencils

The first wood turned pencils I found online were from Turn-of-the-Century, but when I was looking for more wood turned Pentel P200 pencils online, most of the sites that came up were on Etsy, so I decided to purchase a pencil from each of the stores I found on there.

Thom Wilson – P205 Wood Turned Teakz0608 - TURN-THOM-TTK - 325

https://www.etsy.com/shop/Thomsturnings

This is a very nice looking pencil, but it would never make it into my regular pencil rotation.  This is no fault of Thom, it is just that I like a thin pencil (look at what I am collecting), and his pencil has a grip diameter of about 1/2″ or more, much to large for me.

One other issue is that the pencil has been sealed or varnished, but the end-grain on the cap end, does not appear to have been sealed.  Either it was not, or the wood absorbed the sealant on the end.

Richard Altenhofen – P205 Wood Turned Bloodwoodz0576 - TURN-ALTEN-TBW - 380

https://www.etsy.com/shop/RichardAltenhofen

Richard had several pencils in different variety of wood, but I finally decided on the Bloodwood.  Again, this is much too thick for my taste, but in his description of the pencils he writes, “I make the diameter of my mechanical pencils a bit larger that [sic] the original because I find people like the grip better.”

One thing I do like about this pencil is that he copied much of the detail that is on the standard P200 body.  He has the groove cut out for the clip to sit in, and he has the grooves at the front along the grip, although his has 13 vs. the Pentel’s 11 grooves.

His pencils normally come in P207, but he will change them out to P205 or P209 upon request.

Dale Parrott – P205 Wood Turned Zebra Woodz0609 - TURN-WTC-TZW - 342

https://www.etsy.com/shop/WoodTurningCity

This is one of my favorite of the wood pencils.  At the time I purchased this, he had two Zebra Wood pencils, but I like the looks of this one the best.  Another reason that this is one of my favorites, is the shape mimics the P205, and fits my hand perfectly.

It is also very reminiscent of the Brown Marble P205, in the flow of the lines.

Turn-of-the-Century Wood Turning

The next three pencils come from the website http://www.turn-of-the-century.com/write.htm.  They offer several types of items including pens and pencils.  The pencils use either the P205 or P207 internals, and they usually have a couple of dozen pencils available in several different varieties of wood, and three different styles.  I chose one of each style in a different wood each.

P205 Wood Turned High Flare Cocoboloz0607 - TURN-TOTCH-TCO - 350

Turn-of-the-Century carves their flare on the pencils in two different positions.  This one is the high flare, set above the end of the pencil for people who like to hold their pencils further up.

I don’t particularly care for the flare, especially this high up, but I wanted to have one of each style of pencil that they make.  This is the darkest wood of the pencils I have and  is hard to photograph, but it does have some wood grain aspects in a very dark red and brown.

P205 Wood Turned Flare Honduran Rosewoodz0606 - TURN-TOTCF-THR - 355

This flared pencil is made of one of the lighter woods that I have.

P205 Wood Turned Purpleheartz0484 - TURN-TOTC-TPH - 338

This is my other favorite of the wood turned pencil, and is also the first one I purchased back in January 2017.  I really like the purple color to the wood and the tapered shape; it feels really good in your hand.

Metal Pencils

When I first got on Kickstarter, I backed several makers of pens, but I did not ever see people making pencils out of metal.  Finally in 2012, I came upon a Kickstarter by Brian Conti to design a metal pencil based on the Pentel P205.  And the collection started there.

I have not found anyone else online who designs a metal pencil based on the P200, so all the pencils below are from https://www.spokepen.com/.  All of these pencils, with one exception, were available in 0.5mm, 0.7mm & 0.9mm.

Spoke One Dotz0568 - SPOKE 1 Dot-QD - 334z0567 - SPOKE 1 Dot-QB - 346z0566 - SPOKE 1 Dot-QA - 338

As I said above, I had purchased metal pens (and still use one or two), but had never found metal pencils until the Spoke Mechanical Pencil.

According to the Kickstarter, Brian wanted to design a pencil that was not just another round pencil in metal, and used his CNC machine to make this pencil out of aluminum.  To make it unique and stand out, he carved the slots out of the sides to give it the look of spokes in a wheel.  Since he planned on doing more pencils later, he decided to make a single dot on one side near the cap, and that would be how he designated the pencils, thus the Spoke One Dot was born.

You can go see the original Kickstarter page at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/690647277/spoke-mechanical-pencil .  As you can see in the above pictures, I backed the 3-pack, including the Kickstarter exclusive green color.

Spoke Solidz0569 - SPOKE Solid-QN - 355

As best as I can remember, after the Kickstarter, Brian set up his website and a couple of months later he offered this limited edition pencil, without the cutouts.  This one still has the One Dot at the top, but also has “SPOKE” stamped on the side, along with the number of the pencil, in my case, “6”.  This pencil is made of Gunmetal Gray anodized aluminum.

Spoke Inversez0600 - SPOKE Inverse-QN - 296

This pencil was released in 2013, and was a kind of side pencil from the main Spoke line, and thus does not have the Dot designation.  It is labeled “SPOKE 2013”, and is also, the only pencil in my Collection that is not one of the P200 family of pencils.  This one is made from the guts of the Pentel P225 (the only size available at this time).

It is a good thing that Brian did not decide to try to continue to use the P225, as (at least here in the USA) it was discontinued after the 2012 catalog.  Or maybe that is why he did not carry forward with this…

Spoke Two Dotz0582 - SPOKE 2 Dot-QB - 312

I missed this pencil when it was first offered and only picked it up this year when Brian posted about having a few left in stock.

Aside from the Two Dot designator, the only difference I see in this pencil is that the slots are cut narrower than the One Dot.

Spoke Three Dot Prototypez0861 - SPOKE 3 Dot-QAL-PROTOTYPE - 300

This is another acquisition from this year. Made of bare aluminum, this pencil marked a complete change of direction for Spoke pencils, and I think it is for the better.  I did like the uniqueness of the prior pencils, but they never fit my hand comfortably due to the flare at the tip end.

This pencil, with the straight grip section that flares out larger into the body where the spokes are is, to me, a fantastic design.  It just fits my hand very comfortably.

The only real downside to this design, is that it no longer has any flat edges to keep it from rolling off a desk.

As I said, this pencil is a prototype for the…

Spoke Three Dotz0570 - SPOKE 3 Dot-QTT - 329

In July 2017, Spoke Design released almost the perfect pencil.

It had the right shape and it was Brian’s first pencil released in Titanium (the only way the Three Dot was released).  It was perfect, except that he kept having issues making these out of Titanium (I suspect in the cutting out the slots).  Thus, only 100 were released, making a limited edition out of what was (I believe) supposed to be an ongoing production.

Spoke 4z0571 - SPOKE 4-QBA - 325z0583 - SPOKE 4-QCTT - 325

Released on Halloween (October 31) 2017, the Spoke 4 was a departure in several ways.

First, the name.  The dots and Dot designation were dropped for this release, although the 4 is inside a big white dot.  Second, this pencil is made of two sections; the grip and the body.

And these two sections, give you a lot of choices.  The body currently comes in 4 colors; the grip comes in 2 sizes: 8.3mm & 9.2mm, and 5 choices of materials/colors.  Of course it is still available in the three sizes: 0.5mm, 0.7mm & 0.9mm (if you ask very nicely, you can even get it in 0.3mm).  This gives you 120 different combinations to choose from (160 for those who asked nicely).

The first one I purchased was the Red anodized aluminum body with the 8.3mm Black anodized aluminum grip in 0.5mm.

Later I purchased a Blue anodized body (I love this shade of blue) with the 8.3mm Titanium grip (I have always been fascinated with Titanium since a certain comic book series I read as a kid), of course in 0.5mm.  This is the first Spoke pencil that I have used constantly since I got it and it resides on my desk at work.

Spoke Five

In September of this year, the next two pencils were released concurrently.

Spoke 5-2z0854 - SPOKE 5-2-QN - 270

Spoke 5-3z0855 - SPOKE 5-3-QAL - 283

These pencils feature the return of the Dots on the pencil, but not in the name.  They are designated “5” after the Dots and “2” or “3” after the number of slots cut on each side. The smaller grip area (than the Dot 3 or 4) is 9mm in diameter, but the cap end features the return of a 6 flat sides, which will help with rolling on desks.

Right now, these are only available in aluminum in two finishes; anodized storm grey (see the 5-2 above) and bare aluminum (5-3).  Due to being made of aluminum, and such a small cross-section, these are very light, and thus probably won’t make it into my permanent rotation, as I like heavier pencils.

 

I look forward to seeing what Brian and Spoke Designs come up with in the future.

Posted in P200 Family, Pentel

P200 for BOYS & GIRLS

In November 2016, Pentel Japan released a set of P205 pencils, lead and erasers that were apparently marketed to teens.  There were 5 pencils, 3 lead containers (with Ain 0.5mm HB lead) and 3 block erasers with different bands around them.  As of this blog post, you can still see the release on the Pentel Japan website (http://www.pentel.co.jp/special/7711/ ).

P200 for Boys & Girls

To me, this seemed to be strange marketing material.  As far as I know, this was only released in Japan, but the pictures appear to be of Caucasian teens. I am not sure why they would not use Japanese teens to promote this.

I received my first set of pencils in January 2017, and they immediately went into my display cases.  A couple of months later, I found some sets in a package and purchased them as well.D - P200BGPack - P200 for Boys & Girls 5-Pack (BG-C,S,P,P2,W) - 2096

All of these pencils are the same except for the color and the sticker on them.  They all read on the side “Automatic Pencil P200 0.5     P205”.

P205BG-CP205BG-C (Gen 6) - 321

This pencil is Navy and the barcode is 4902506333957.

P205BG-SP205BG-S (Gen 6) - 363

This pencil is Serenity Blue and the barcode is 4902506333988.

P205BG-PP205BG-P (Gen 6) - 336

This pencil is Coral Pink and the barcode is 4902506333964.

PG205BG-P2P205BG-P2 (Gen 6) - 324

This pencil is Baby Pink and the barcode is 4902506333971.

PG205BG-WP205BG-W (Gen 6) - 297

This pencil is Off-White and the barcode is 4902506333995.

Posted in P200, Pentel

P205 Gilded Collection

In 2015, Pentel released the P205 Gilded Collection.  I believe these were released for the 45th anniversary of the P205.

There were 5 of these pencils released and the text on the body is in gold.  Also, the tip, clip and cap are also gold colored. Each of the pencils is marked on a tag with the model and color code and the barcode. These pencils all came in a Gift / Presentation Box that was unmarked.  According to the barcode, these were distributed by Pentel of America.D - Gift Box - Pentel P205 Gilded Pencil Box (XBL5) - 2019

The 5 pencils released are:

P205-XAL5 (Gen 6) - 330P205-XAL5 (884851023438) Black

P205-XBL5 (Gen 6) - 342P205-XBL5 (884851023445) Red

P205-XCL5 (Gen 6) - 351P205-XCL5 (884851023452) Blue

P205-XVL5 (Gen 6) - 342P205-XVL5 (884851023469) Violet

P205-XWL5 (Gen 6) - 336P205-XWL5 (884851023476) White

As of this blog post, these pencils are still available on eBay.

Posted in P200 Family, Pentel

P205 Metallics

After the success of the P205 Marble series, Pentel started to release metallic colors for their most popular size, the P205.  In 2012, Pentel released 12 or possibly 13 pencils.

One thing that made identification of these pencils easy is that with 1 exception, all of them came with labels on the bottom with their color codes and barcodes.

P205M-BX (Gen 6) - 354P205M-BX – Red Metallic

P205M-CX (Gen 6) - 381P205M-CX – Blue Metallic

P205M-DX (Gen 6) - 351P205M-DX – Green Metallic

P205M-KX (Gen 6) - 366P205M-KX – Light Green Metallic

P205M-K1X (Gen 6) - 402P205M-K1X – Mint Green Metallic

P205M-PX (Gen 6) - 342P205M-PX – Pink Metallic

P205M-P1X (Gen 6) - 345P205M-P1X – Rose Pink Metallic

P205M-SX (Gen 6) - 330P205M-SX – Sky Blue Metallic

P205M-VX (Gen 6) - 354P205M-VX – Violet Metallic

P205M-X (Gen 6) - 366P205M-X – Gold Metallic

P205M-Z (Gen 6) - 351P205M-Z – Silver Metallic

P205-WX (Gen 6) - 357P205-WX – White – Not a metallic, but it was released with the rest of the series, so I count it as such.

P205M-YX (Gen 6) - 351P205M-YX – Rose Gold Metallic – I am not for sure if this pencil came out with the rest of the 2012 metallics, but I found it and purchased it in 2014.  I may have overlooked it in 2012, mistaking it for the P205M-X, since unless you see them side by side, it could be mistaken for Gold.

The above are the 12 or 13 that were released in 2012.  There are three more pencils that I count as part of the metallic line as well as some that were re-released.

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In 2015, Pentel America celebrated 50 years in business.  As part of this celebration, instead of their standard 2-pack (P205BP2-K6), they released a 3-pack (P205BP2F) with 2 P205A with a bonus pencil.  Both of these packages have the same 5 digit number on the front (04490), which corresponds to the UPC.50 Years of Pentel America

P205M-X50 (Gen 6) - 357P205M-X50 – 50th Anniversary Gold – This is the only pencil in the P205 metallics that did not come with a label, so I made the above designation to keep track of this in my collection.

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In 2016, Pentel released two 3-packs of P205 pencils.IMG_1104These are the P205MBP3M (left) and the P205MBP3M1 (right). The one on the left included 2 new pencils.

P205MNX (Gen 6) - 363P205MNX – Metallic Graphite – 2 of these are included in the 3-pack.

P205MZX (Gen 6) - 354P205MZX – Silver

The 3-pack on the right contained 3 colors that were released back in 2012.  But, they issued them with slightly different color codes (took out the “-“) and a new barcode.

P205MBXP205M-BX (2012 – 884851008237) vs. P205MBX (2016 – 884851025739)P205MCXP205M-CX (2012 – 884851008244) vs. P205MCX (2016 – 884851025746)P205MDXP205M-DX (2012 – 884851008251) vs. P205MDX (2016 – 884851025753)

I am not sure why they reissued these with different codes and barcodes, but they also re-released at least one other that I know of.

P205MVXP205M-VX (2012 – 884851008275) vs. P205MVX (2016 – 884851025760)

To my knowledge, these are all of the P205 metallic pencils that have been released, at least in the United States.

Posted in P200, Pentel

The Marble Pencils

I first saw these pencils back in 2010, when they first came out.  I am not positive, but these were probably released to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the release of the P205, back in 1970.  What I do know is that it was the start of the release of all sorts of colors for the P205 and later P207s & P209s, at least here in the United States.

P205MB – Red Marble

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P205MC – Blue Marble

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P205MD – Green Marble

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P205ME – Brown Marble

Blog 8 - P205ME

I got my first set of these directly from Pentel of America in March 2010. It was nice to see Pentel adding a variety to a line that has been around for 40 years. I really liked the way the body looked with the black sprayed over a base color, giving it a marbled look.

At this time, I was collecting various different mechanical/drafting pencils. Seeing these come out, helped me make my decision to concentrate on the P200 family of pencils. I had already picked up several other pencils in the family, but now having colors made the decision easy.

These pencils and, as far as I know, all other color pencils released are still a part of the 6th generation of Pentel Sharps. This would be a great break point for a new generation, except that other than the colors, there is nothing distinct between Generation 6 and these. A Generation would need to have a distinct change across the entire line of pencils for me to classify it separately, and I find nothing in a P205A that would say it was made after 2010 versus 2000, where I can tell you if it was made around 1970, 1973, 1976, 1980, 1988 or 2000, as these are points within the different generations.